Ad entices star creatives (and maybe you as well) to join Euro RSCG
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ray,
a bit sensitive aren't we? hicks may have gone overboard on occasion, but you can harldy fault his rants against consumerism run amuck. or his take on ad people being willing to sell anything--trans-fats to kids, sugar water to kids, alcohol to kids and yes, cigarettes to kids. maybe he was so angry because in an ironic twist he had fallen prey to the power of advertising as a youngster. oh, and petty officer, the blogs don't need people like you around--people with inside contacts. I don't work at McGarry, someone else put that up there. Let them have their little fun and games. Who cares?
Posted by: mingthemerciless | Jun 14, 2006 2:08:23 PM
This string is getting completely sidetracked. We need to focus on the real issues here: can Euro make it as a decent creative shop under Kling? Can under-represented minorities make it in this whitewashed world of corporate advertising? Is Euro's site, while not that original, an interesting way to recruit big talent? But, all that being said, I'd love to know where Ming (the real Ming!!!!) works. You certainly have some strong opinions, and it would be interesting to see where you're coming from. And let's remember we're all friends here. Peace.
Posted by: white_ad_guy_06 | Jun 14, 2006 2:10:59 PM
Well, I certainly don't work on Marriot or at McGarry. So there are two Mings. Is the world big enough for two mings? I'm going to have to find a new moniker. Farewell Ming. I loved being you. And Bella thanks for the invite, but I don't like tab. It's doesn't rhyme with gellin'.
Posted by: miingthemerciless--the original | Jun 14, 2006 2:12:15 PM
methinks the ming doth protest too much.
Posted by: ben | Jun 14, 2006 2:14:39 PM
No no no Ming. You can have your name back, it was just me, Marian Salzman, having a little fun! I won't do it again. Promise!
XOXO
Marian
Posted by: Marian Salzman | Jun 14, 2006 2:19:47 PM
How about Tab Energy. It doesn't rhyme with gellin' but it's pink, and the ads make it look like soooooooo much fun!
Posted by: | Jun 14, 2006 2:29:59 PM
white ad guy,
euro needs more than kling, but it's a start. and minorities will make it eventually, but let's face it, advertising is the augusta of business--a lot of wealthy white guys protecting their turf.
Posted by: rosser reeves | Jun 14, 2006 2:36:22 PM
Amen!
Posted by: white_ad_guy_06 | Jun 14, 2006 2:48:32 PM
http://www.tonyrobbins.com/Home/Home.aspx
Posted by: Tony Robbins | Jun 14, 2006 2:50:05 PM
white ad guy,
maybe euro's site is "unoriginal", but it's a hell of a lot more than all the other hack agencies in ny are doing to get people to work there.
no, minorities will never make it in advertising. sorry ming.
yes, euro can make it under kling. as long as they keep the free soda. a slushy machine might help too.
Posted by: white.ad.girl | Jun 14, 2006 2:50:47 PM
white ad girl,
demographics will work against the rich white guys over time. this country and the industry will change. it will take time, but it will happen. have faith
Posted by: rosser reeves | Jun 14, 2006 2:58:24 PM
white people can't write.
Posted by: spike L | Jun 14, 2006 3:11:09 PM
... and they certainly can't jump! LOL. But seriously, do you know what's next? Paninis. These hot pressed Italian sandwiches have hit New York, via Milan, and are literally unstoppable!
Posted by: Marian Salzman | Jun 14, 2006 3:16:50 PM
Marian,
I saw you last week le trapeze and i must say you look like you've had one too many paninis. they may be the food of the future, but I suggest you lay off them for a bit.
Posted by: rosser reeves | Jun 14, 2006 3:20:51 PM
Mingthemerciless,
There is a line that I have always liked from the first time I heard it:
"The problem with socialism is socialism;
the problem with capitalism is capitalists."
Hicks was a comedian, but he self-elevated by calling himself a "Chomsky with dick jokes." Itself pretty funny.
Advertising, like dentistry or tailoring or janitorial services, is not immoral in itself only as characterized by the totalitarians who see it as just another free expression to be squashed in the name of either eliminating waste or promoting morality.
Rosser Reeves,
When the day comes that whites become the minority then they will have that underdog status that will confer on them heretofore unknown wisdom, virtue and grace.
spike L,
but they can dance
Posted by: Ray Middleton | Jun 14, 2006 3:32:01 PM
I USED TO WORK AT EURO. LET ME TELL YOU A FUNNY PLACE. THE WOMAN WHO ANSWER THE PHONE JOKED ONCE, GOOD MORNING MESSNER VETERE BERGER MCNAMEE SCHMETTER, GOOD AFTERNOON HOW CAN I HELP YOU!!!!!! LOL HAHAHAHAHAH
GET IT THE NAME IS TOO LONG/
Posted by: K-ROD | Jun 14, 2006 3:32:50 PM
That joke was derivative.
From
Levine, Huntley, Schmidt, Plapler and Beaver.
Probably written by Garfinkel or Taub.
Or Maybe Bill Hicks.
Posted by: BOB SCHMIDT | Jun 14, 2006 3:46:01 PM
yo K-ROD. that was mad funny. how is BBH treating you? We should team up on some shit soon. Hit me up-
212 415 3100
-L
Posted by: spike L | Jun 14, 2006 3:48:34 PM
ray,
i've never know a dentist who tried to get a 12 year old to smoke a cigarette or drink a beer. advertising is a profession populated by people who use their wiles to create demand for many harmful products. legal, sure, but also harmful. if you're peddling cancer for a living you should take a hard look at your life.
Posted by: mingthemerciless | Jun 14, 2006 3:52:14 PM
ming,
On the other hand, Mengele was a dentist.
Inducing cigarette smoking among toddlers would have gotten him several rungs higher in the inferno and a lighter intensity of fire and brimstone.
Your comment, of course, is really silly, and not worthy of mingthemerciless who has said some interesting things here, assuming it is THAT mingthemerciless and not a poseur like Dr. Zarkov or Prince Baron.
I may have lived a sheltered life, but I actually never worked at an agency that had either a cigarette account or a juvenile beer advertiser. Although I would draw the distinction between the two as I started to drink beer at 14 under the boardwalk at Rockaway Beach and it is possible that harmful quaffing of malts and hops has led me to this web-site and this industry.
Best regards,
Ray Middleton (who is, as you know, better known as Republic Studios' mingthemerciless)
Posted by: RAY MIDDLETON | Jun 14, 2006 4:04:12 PM
that is gross and totally unneccessary. all serious blogsters, DO NOT click on the nielsen group link unless you are TOTALLY DEPRAVED!!!1
Posted by: | Jun 14, 2006 4:29:20 PM
Hello Dean,
For the record, the 30 year olds who used-to-tag-and-skate-but-now-call-themselves-DJs now run an empire that includes 13 international editions of the magazine, a production company (all those new "truth" spots from Crispin were directed and produced by Vice), a record company (hello, are you too old to know The Stills, The Streets and Death From Above?), book publishing, toy manufacturing and DVD.
Don't be drinking the haterade just cuz you would never be let into one of their parties!
Posted by: stopdrinkinthehaterade | Jun 14, 2006 4:51:00 PM
The Streets are for old people.
Posted by: Professor Murder | Jun 14, 2006 5:12:37 PM
if vice were any closer to the cutting edge they would fall off into the future.
Posted by: roark16 | Jun 14, 2006 5:23:20 PM
It was cool when they put that Chromeo song on a Macdonald's comercial.
Posted by: Mean Mr. Mustard | Jun 14, 2006 5:31:02 PM
Chromeo is neat!!
Posted by: Grimace | Jun 14, 2006 6:02:53 PM
I second that!
Robble robble.
Posted by: Hamburgler | Jun 14, 2006 6:04:00 PM
Gorgeous.
Posted by: rich siegel | Jun 14, 2006 6:36:58 PM
Euro has many things going for it. And I'm not just talking about the much lauded VESIcare "Pipe Campaign."
Perhaps you've seen our gorgeous CEO? Certainly the most handsome CEO of any agency.
Ever.
And if you're going to try and splash some "haterade" on his boyish good looks, you should know he's pretty much a professional athlete - just ask Michael Chang's disheartened backhand.
Posted by: pizzatorso | Jun 14, 2006 7:40:55 PM
Dear Vice Magazine,
I stand corrected.
Congratulations on becoming exactly the people your edgy, edgy magazine was made to set itself against.
And making the first truly horrible Truth spots. Itchy, bleeding colon polyp bad.
With a finger on the cararoid artery of today's fleeting 15-23 year old urban trendmakers,
Dean
Posted by: Dean | Jun 14, 2006 8:11:51 PM
I heard vice licensed their name to Colgate for a line of teeth whitening gum. Can anyone confirm?
Posted by: newbizzz | Jun 14, 2006 8:26:06 PM
If any of you bothered to mouse over the sig line for MingtheMerciless (the original), you'd see it links to Downtown Partners Chicago, the guys that do the Bud Light radio.
As for minorities in advertising, I'd even settle for some people from non upper middle class backgrounds. Creatives aside, what kid out of college is going to go to work for what we pay junior account and media people. And even junior creatives-- so many other options for someone with a creative bent nowadays than making $40k/year and trying to have a life.
Not to mention that landing a junior creative level job these days is largely dependent on your parents ponying up for 2 years of ad school. Which ain't cheap, last time I checked.
Posted by: Alex Cross | Jun 15, 2006 3:41:50 PM
Ray Middleton, you mad fool! You of all people should know that the "Flash Gordon" serials were produced by Universal, not Republic.
Alex, what are these lucrative "other options for someone with a creative bent" of which you speak? Out with it, man, or I shall have your liver fed to the rabid Gnarlywumps of Rigel 7.
Posted by: Max von Sydow | Jun 15, 2006 4:24:37 PM
Max von Sydow is correct about the studio, but
I think it was Charles Middleton, not Ray Middleton, who played the Imperial Ming, he with the asbestos cape and frequent injunction to "seize him." Charles also was a villain in a lot of westerns and even played in a couple of Laurel and Hardy pictures.
His voice was very scary, but not as scary as this blog at times.
The upper class/working class distinction that Mr. Cross raises is interesting. Advertising used to attract Ivy Leaguers; then in the late 60s the industry had to settle for former janitors, former letter carriers and former factory workers--occupations that graced my resume.
Posted by: Tom Messner | Jun 15, 2006 9:42:40 PM
I can't believe so much hype over one small little thing. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that few of you actually know Jeff Kling and his humor and his work. This ad was run as a joke, but W+K is beginning to decline since Kling's departure, while euro has retained and won some major accounts. Wouldn't surprise me if Williams opted to work with his long time pal.
Posted by: Toast | Aug 15, 2006 10:54:49 AM
I can't believe so much hype over one small little thing. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that few of you actually know Jeff Kling and his humor and his work. This ad was run as a joke, but W+K is beginning to decline since Kling's departure, while euro has retained and won some major accounts. Wouldn't surprise me if Williams opted to work with his long time pal.
Posted by: Toast | Aug 15, 2006 10:55:03 AM
