Brief interviews with commercial actors: Jack Ferver on being Starburst's Little Lad

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We're attempting a new (and probably infrequent) feature where we interview actors from popular TV ads past and present. For the first installment, we tracked down Jack Ferver, who delivered a memorably unnerving performance as the berries-and-cream-loving Little Lad in last year's notorious bus-station Starburst spot from TBWA\Chiat\Day. When he's not shooting ads, Ferver works in experimental dance and theater in New York, and has created several evening-length pieces, including When We Were Young And Filled With Fear and MEAT. He also played Jimmy Tickles in Strangers With Candy. After the jump, he talks about the weirdness of bus stations, whether the Little Lad is evil, and why it's important to be shocked.

—Posted by Tim Nudd

  How did you get the gig? It must have been a bizarre audition.
  I have the most amazing commercial agency, CESD. They got me the audition. At the callback I did it at least 10 totally different ways, including crying. But I cry any chance I get anyway.

  The Lad is pretty odd. How did he come about?
  Well, the writers obviously came up with the Little Lad. Randy Krallman, the director, is a genius and really set everything up in such a perfect way. We all talked about it, and played with different ideas. It was certainly collaborative.

  Some people find the ad creepy. Is the Lad evil or just eccentric?
  Who are these people? I love it. There was this really great cartoon someone did of the Little Lad where he looks like the spawn of the devil. I live in New York, in the hipster part of Brooklyn, so I see grown men in schoolboy outfits on the subway every day.

  What's he doing at the bus station?
  Bus stations are time warps. He is not from this time.

  What was most challenging thing about the role?
  Doing that for over 12 hours in 80-something-degree heat in a wool costume and a wig.

  The Lad has great hair and a nice outfit. Did you spend a lot of time getting the look right?
  I can't even tell you how long.

  Were you pleased with how the ad turned out?
  I think it is hilarious. Randy and I have a very similar sense of humor, and I think it turned out well.

  How do you balance your artistic work and your commercial work?
  I make dance theater work in New York. I just closed a show this summer that went really well, and I have a residency at Dance Theater Workshop in January that will have a full production through Dancespace Project at Saint Mark's Church in April. The fact that I am continually working artistically makes my life better, and in turn keeps my creativity flowing, which is necessary for the fast pace of commercial production. I love shooting commercials. I have been blessed to work with really kind, smart, and conscientious directors, writers, and producers, who have been incredibly good to me and who I regard as friends. It's different from making my own work—I'm fulfilling someone else's vision. It's satisfying in a different way. It also helps sustain me financially.

  One YouTube video of the Starburst ad has more than 6 million views. Did you expect it to be that popular?
  I had a feeling it might become this popular when I first read it. It has the kind of offbeat humor that makes something a cult hit. You laugh because you are caught off guard. This happens to us in life. You are driving and pass a van full of nuns and they flick you off. It's shocking but delightful, because it is so refreshing to be shocked in this day and age.

October 24, 2008 in Interviews, Nudd, Starburst, TBWA | Permalink

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I love it! The creepy little man sounds just as I would have suspected. Awesome.

"Who are these people?"

Posted by: Katrina Limbaugh | Oct 24, 2008 11:33:02 AM

I'm obsessed with this spot and would actually go so far as to consider it commercial art. The balance between creepiness, humor and raw human emotion is nothing short of genius. Thanks for giving the back story! I've always wondered...

Posted by: Rachel | Oct 24, 2008 12:23:15 PM

I agree. Commercial art. Standout work in a category of sameness. And it's actually real, and has run.

Posted by: Stucko | Oct 24, 2008 12:37:42 PM

"Well, the writers obviously came up with the Little Lad. Randy Krallman, the director, is a genius and really set everything up in such a perfect way."

Commercial art, perhaps. But I see we're still throwing the word "genius" around these days. Okay. I'm down.

Posted by: Jeremy Greenfield | Oct 24, 2008 12:43:58 PM

Whenever I see these commercials, I am filled with a murderous rage. Does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: Butch Cavendish | Oct 24, 2008 12:44:20 PM

Yes, it does Butch. But we're all bad people so that's ok.

Posted by: thatguy | Oct 24, 2008 1:59:47 PM

Thank you for validating my latent psychotic tendencies, thatguy.

Posted by: Butch Cavendish | Oct 24, 2008 2:16:34 PM

I'd love to see an interview with the two actors in the Sonic Drive-Thru commercials. Those guys are hilarious... and the spots are done improv style.

Posted by: Butch | Oct 27, 2008 3:13:31 PM

Great piece! Please do the Progressive insurance girl. I have the biggest crush on her. This is a great idea for a series.

Posted by: chuckgutz | Nov 1, 2008 1:02:47 PM

When I first saw the commercial I honestly thought they must have lifted the image from an old Rowan Atkinson clip. I took a couple of viewings before I realised, "That's Jimmy Tickles!"

Posted by: SpiffBereft | Nov 1, 2008 2:03:08 PM

J.W. Pervert. I used to make fun of this this guy in elementary school. Looks like he has done good for himself.

Posted by: C.S. | Nov 2, 2008 2:25:49 AM

Well, it looks like he paid more attention in English class.

Posted by: blue | Nov 2, 2008 8:18:13 AM

That guy is creepy.

Posted by: Hayle ya | Nov 2, 2008 4:38:11 PM

Butch Cavendish

I'd love to see an interview with the two actors in the Sonic Drive-Thru commercials

Here ya go

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/jagodowski/

Well one guy anyways

Posted by: jpearce | Nov 2, 2008 6:30:11 PM

It is always disturbing to realize you have memorized a commercial teaching you how to do the little lad dance.
the brilliant inversion of his knees toward the end of the lesson is unparalleled awkward genius.

Posted by: Sophia | Nov 3, 2008 2:04:29 PM

I may have watched this commercial about 20 times in the last hour and a half. It's obsessive when it reaches out the right kind of audience. So funny! Because... it's just... entirely random! My friends where quite speechless after watching it :P

Posted by: Tiffany | Nov 7, 2008 11:05:51 PM


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